Peptide Chit Chat

Peptides are everywhere right now, and the hype can make it feel like everyone should be on something. We slow it down and talk like clinicians and like real people: what peptides can help with, what they can’t replace, and why “safe for your friend” might be unsafe for you.

We start with the non-negotiable topic: safety. Some peptides touch growth hormone pathways, so we explain why cancer history and suspicious lesions matter when you’re considering peptide therapy. That nuance gets lost online, and it’s exactly why we want listeners to think in terms of screening, risk factors, and provider oversight instead of trend-based shopping.

Then we get practical. We share our experience with NAD troches and why NAD stays popular for cellular energy and metabolic health when used consistently. From there we unpack newer conversations around body recomposition and metabolic optimization, including Adonyx and the ingredients people talk about for targeting visceral fat. We spend time on MOTS C, a mitochondrial peptide often described as an exercise mimic, and we connect the science idea to real life: menopause fatigue, getting back into running, protecting joints, and not letting a “second wind” push you into an injury spiral.

We also touch peptide stacking, including questions people ask about pairing peptides with GLP-1 weight loss medications, and why sourcing matters as much as the compound itself. If you take one takeaway, make it this: vet your pharmacy, work with trained providers, and treat peptides like healthcare, not a shortcut.

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Transcript

Welcome And Peptides In Plain English

Nicole 0:27

Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of Tattoos and Telehealth. I'm Nicole Baldwin and this is Kelly White. And we are both board-certified nurse practitioners where we just chatted up. And we are just going to do just that today. I wanted to talk about some of the peptides that I want to try myself and uh just kind of touch on peptides very surface level. That's all the craze now with you know everything that's going on. And they uh do some really amazing things if it's appropriate for you uh or whoever. As long as it's appropriate, that's the most important thing is that it's safe for you. Because a lot of these aren't safe for patients. Some of them are growth have growth hormones. And so if you have an active diagnosis of cancer or recent cancer, the last thing we want to do is activate the growth of the cancer. So there was an article that came out

Safety First Cancer Risk Talk

Nicole 1:20

does peptides cause cancer, blah, blah, blah. But the issue is that if you currently have it, even if it's unknown, it could make those cells grow, right? So we have to just be really, really careful to make sure that we don't have anything active going on, no suspicious cancer lesions or things like that. But there is one that I have been on, where's it at? I have been on this is the NAD, and I use the oral troche. And so it comes in its little box, and then it just dissolves in your mouth. Those little dissolvable trochies. So I use that. I'm not consistent with it.

Kelli 2:02

I wish I was. I love NAD. NAD is so multi. I love NAD. It's so multi-purpose.

Nicole 2:08

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it definitely is like super multi-purpose. And patients that are typically on it, they do really well. Uh within

Why We Like NAD Troches

Nicole 2:20

like the first month, they're usually feeling feeling some kind of some kind of results. So I'm I absolutely love that. Um there's one that's coming out and it's called, which I want to try, and it's called Adonyx. And I, you know, I I did the 80-pound weight loss on the GLP. And then now because I'm, you know, perimenopausal, I still have a little bit of fat, but I don't really necessarily want to lose any weight. I just want to really target my like the little bit of muffin top, the jiggly of my legs, and that kind of thing. Um right here. The arm wiggle. The arm wiggle, yeah. But the Adonyx, A-D-O-N-I-X, is it's it's a formulation that is designed for body recomposition and metabolic optimization. And what does that mean? It it really targets the visceral fat and it works on fat burning in those areas and the deep fat that we have. So that's the visceral fat, the

Adonyx For Body Recomposition

Nicole 3:30

the deeper belly fat. And so I want to try it. It's got the tesamoralin, epimorin, the AOD in it, and then the MOT C. The MOT C interesting enough, that's a mitochondrial peptide, and that's important because it acts as an exercise mimic. And in RAT, I think it was in rats, they could run, what was it? They could run seven times longer and faster. Yeah, I think that's right. Without any like working up to it, like it really makes your muscles feel like they're exercising, like your cells, like right? Is that am I am I saying that right? Because I know this one, I just started researching it. I just started researching it.

Kelli 4:16

So um what Naval's trying to say is it it's um so it works by activating your AMPK, so your um your activated protein kind of, so like the like your metabolic switch, like when you go to the gym and you're working out and all of a sudden, I personally, and you guys can not like this

MOTS C As Exercise Mimic

Kelli 4:35

statement or love this statement, I call it the shit shift. Like when you're working out and you're like, this shit sucks. And then all of a sudden you just like get that wind. Some people call it a second wind. I call it a shit shift, like where suddenly you're just like, yes, I got this. That's like when that's that system like kicks in. That's kind of what Motzi does is like it suddenly turns that on where you're just like in hyperdrive, only like seven times greater than your body is ever capable of doing. Um, and and really kind of gets that going. So it like activates that system, turns on that metabolic switch. It's like the master switch. Like if you walked into your house and you had one switch that turned everything on, everything, and you kick that switch, that's what it does. So, like promotes fat oxidation, improves insulin sensitivity, improves your cellular stress response, like immediately, all at once, the one switch that kicks everything on, like that immediate shit shift. That's what I think about when I think of Matsy. It's like everything. I like that. Have you ever tried it? I haven't. So I've thought about it. And the reasons, I'll tell you the true reason why I have it. So the true reason why I haven't done it is because I'm still recovering a little bit from my shoulder. So my right shoulder surgery, you guys know, um, I'm several months out, my right shoulder's doing okay. I'm still dealing with a little bit of frozen on my left shoulder. And so I'm trying to be gentle as I push myself through things. And so I'm I'm that person that if you give me an inch, I'll take the whole

Injury Recovery And When To Wait

Kelli 6:00

rope. And so I don't want to hurt it. And my fear is that if I like go in there like guns blazing, ready to go, that I'll walk out and be like, oh no, I should not have done that. And I'll spend months paying for what I should not have done. And so I am still with the CJC Ipamoralin and cycling the Wolverine blend just to kind of try to keep things working until I get that full range of motion back. But baby, as soon as that's back, I'm on it. I'm on it because I've already gotten my strength back. I'm already looking and feeling stronger than I was way before surgery. Like this is from a strength standpoint, I'm better than I was before surgery. So as soon as I get full range of motion back, baby, all bets are off. I'm on it.

Nicole 6:42

I mean, I think that I'm really glad you're on the Tesamorlin and the Ipomorlin because we already want to make sure that your muscles are doing and your tendons are doing all the things that it needs to do. So I'm super excited about that. I had forgotten that you were on those, but I'm glad that you say you feel stronger. And I know yesterday you messaged me and you shot your competition bow.

Kelli 7:04

Shot my bow! Oh okay. So, guys, um, so my husband and I shoot competitive

Archery Comeback And Healing Gains

Kelli 7:10

archery and we shoot it nationwide. And I um I have not been behind my competition bow in almost two years. That is huge for me because guys, I've been shooting a bow for almost 20 years competitively. Um, I'm nationally ranked, I have multiple state championships, multiple shooter of the years and in Texas. And so for me to not be able to shoot my competition bow, which is for those of you that know, like bigger bow, heavier, lots of all the things, that was a lot for me. Like that's a very that was hard for me to get through. It's a depressing time. You can't pick up your stuff. You're watching your friends shoot, you're, you know, you're like, you just can't. And I picked it up last night and I was pulling the same weight I was when I first put it down. It was not turned down. So I picked it up. I shot 10 or 12 arrows. The first one was a flyer, the second one, right beside the X, third one, right beside the X, and like nailing it. And my husband was like, She's back. I'm like, yes. So I and to be able to feel that way again, man, I don't know. And I had somebody at a shoot this last weekend um ask me about peptides um and kind of what that journey looked like. I recovered two to three weeks ahead of the mark consistently throughout my recovery. Even my physical therapist would tell me, you know, most people are here, you're here. Most people should be here, you're here. And I kept moving that bar up the whole time I was in therapy. Um, and I I still to this day believe it was two reasons. One, I was strong when I went into surgery. Number one, number two, I jumped on peptides. Like Nicole and I, we had this plan. We knew what we were gonna do. I took peptides leading up to surgery, took the break right before a week after surgery. I was back on it and I was cycling peptides after surgery. And I truly, truly believe that that was what kept me moving the bar higher and higher and allowed me to stay above the mark.

Nicole 9:09

I think that's fantastic. When you told me that, I was like, oh my gosh, we're gonna talk about peptides tomorrow because I'm so excited so excited for you. But there's Kelly is so good at her exercise and so good, and I am not good at exercise. I wish I was, but I'm not. So we're definitely uh we are a lot alike, but with that, we are definitely polar opposites. I wish I was more that way. Um, but I would I'm just not there yet. I wish I was there, but I'm not. So for me, I'm hoping that the Mot C kind of gives me that extra energy, that extra push that I really need to get things in order because creeping

Menopause Fatigue Training And Nutrition

Nicole 9:55

up on 50. So uh yeah, definitely something I would like to get into. And I used to be a runner. I mean, I used to run 11 miles with just just not even just keeping, you know, no big deal. And I felt like I was in the best shape of my life. I felt strong, even though I was just a runner. Like I literally felt so strong when I was a runner. And I'm just, I'm just not there. I'm I'm still struggling with the fatigue, with the menopause and all that stuff. So I I'm really am trying to get it right.

Kelli 10:22

So and I think that's where um, and I know we're harping on Motsy a lot, but as opposed to, you know, talking about some other ones, but I really like it for like someone like you. So, you know, going to the gym, lifting heavy weights, and that's not your thing. But if you want to need to get back into running at your age with kind of where you are in life, that's the other great thing, is because of where it works in that system, you know, it's going to provide that antioxidant protection. It's gonna reduce inflammation, it's gonna promote cellular cleanup, it's going to help, you know, activate the cellular nucleus from the mitochondria. So now we're looking at this whole picture of not only are we gonna be able to hit that master switch for you, but we're, you know, and promoting fat oxidation and those great things and giving you the energy. But underneath that, we're protecting you from those age-related changes that your body's already going through with inflammation and the stuff that happens once you start getting back into running.

Nicole 11:21

The things that pounding on the knees, the pounding on the hips, the spine, all of that. Yeah.

unknown 11:26

Yeah.

Nicole 11:27

I mean, we wear our spine down the discs in between. And that's why when we turn 100, we're two inches shorter, because we literally are wearing down those discs in between. So I'm I'm with you on that, on the inflammation and all of that, because you know, walking technically is healthier as far as your joints go. Cardiovascular-wise, you know, whatever. There's you know, debate forever on that. But this peptide, you can see and you can really feel morning energy within the first couple of weeks, two to three weeks, but it really takes 12 to 16 weeks to real of consistent use, you know, doing the resistance training, doing, you know, making sure you're good on your protein and all those things. I mean, you can't just take it and then go have, you know, mc McDonald's for for breakfast. I love McDonald's, no, no shame on that. But like if you're trying, if you're working for a goal, you have to watch those things that you are eating, um, fried things like that. So you really just have to have to pay attention. But 12 to 16 weeks of consistent use. So I I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it.

Kelli 12:39

Yeah. And you know, and you mentioned um AOD kind of as part of that. And so I also think that so there's some other ones that pair well, right? We've talked about peptide stacking before, and we've talked about stacking, and there's even some research out there right now, and I know

Peptide Stacking With GLP 1 Caution

Kelli 12:55

we won't get into it just for other, you know, other topics, but there's been some research about people that stack their weight loss medications with peptides or stacking their weight loss medications together. Um, and I think that's really interesting. Like, I can't wait for there to be more stuff out about that, but I love the weight loss stacking with peptides because I think that you get a little extra oomph in the back. Like, you know, so like AOD, let's take it, let's pick on AOD for a hot minute. So you have your weight loss in the background, but then you get a little bit of like leveling out. So you bring in AOD, whereas unlike that full hormone growth hormone thing, it doesn't elevate IGF one or disrupt that glucose tolerance. So it works really well with it because it does cause that hunger suppression. It does create that little bit of oomph that you see with those GLP1s, GIP receptor agonists. And so I think that there's some, there's still a little bit of room for people to talk about what that could look like for them. Like there's a lot of, like there's a lot to be said for that, right?

Nicole 14:05

It does, it does. I mean, specifically with the AOD, it triggers the breakdown of stored fat, which is triglycerides, within the fat cells and releases them to be used as energy. So that is great for targeted fat loss, weight management, joint and cartilage, metabolic health. So when you're pairing that with a GLP, if it's appropriate for you and it's safe for you, because everyone has it, every every peptide has its own safety, you know, questions and dynamics, but they're working very well. It's like one plus one is three. And I I I really do like that. And we'll talk about on an upcoming episode about stacking GLPs. At this time, we're not recommending it. We are actually not promoting that at all. It's just something that is out in the ether because different ones work on different areas, GIPs, GLPs, um, combos, not non-combos, um, just peptides, straight peptides. And so there is a really lot to unpack with that. So um so stay tuned for that. But that is something that I feel is going to be acknowledged much more here in the next coming coming months. So I think that's great. But yes, AOD, it's it's it's one of those ones that is just a really, really good one. It's really, really good. And stacking them, it really can give you that extra benefit that of all of them that you need because some peptides are good with tissue repair and healing and things like that. Some of them are good with sleep, right? Just promoting a good sleep cycle. And some of them are, you know, like flipping the whole switch on, right? So I think they're all across the board. And especially for men and women who are 40 and over, 35 even and oh and and older, we need all of that healing and regeneration that we can get for longevity, just for general longevity and for just overall health. So I I think I can't wait to try the Adonics. So I'm I'm anxious. So right now we're looking at different pharmacies that have things that are within FDA guidelines and all the things, and you know, when things become available and uh, you know, we're able to do those things. Because right now there it

Vet Your Pharmacy And Medical Disclaimer

Nicole 16:35

they have opened up just a general blanket statement. They have opened up that more are becoming okay and FDA approved. And so we're just kind of watching that unfold right now. So stay tuned for that. But if you have any questions about uh peptides or about you know things that are up and coming, you know, you can certainly certainly reach out to us, contact at myhamiltonhealth.com. Uh that is this our number one email for if you have any questions, you can certainly email us and ask us about that.

Kelli 17:06

So absolutely. And I think that it's also important to keep in mind. Nicole and I've talked about this a million times. And I think we even have an episode about pharmacies and stuff. But, you know, there's all kinds of stuff out there, guys. And even if you don't come to us, just be sure you're vetting your pharmacy. Be sure you're vetting the place that you're getting it from. Be sure that you know that, you know, the place that you're taking it, that you're taking your sending your orders to andor getting your medications from, they know what they're doing. They've got providers on the backside that are keeping an eye on you and going over your history and making sure it's appropriate for you. Um, because again, like Nicole said in the beginning, it's not for everyone. Um, and not every peptide is for everybody. It doesn't mean that there's not a peptide that is for you. It just means that it may not be that one. So please just be sure that um there is a provider that is certified in peptides. Nicole um is certified in peptides, our company is certified in peptides. We have um a team, a whole team in the background that is certified in peptides. Like we know, we know what is good for you and what is not. So just if that's not us, just please be sure whoever you're dealing with has that certification andor knowledge to know what's going to be best for you. Because at the end of the day, we just want you guys to be safe. Okay.

Nicole 18:13

Absolutely.

Kelli 18:14

Um, and so having said all of that, we what we didn't say was watching this podcast or listening to this podcast does not constitute a patient provider relationship. And this is not medical advice. We are just two gals chit chatting. So be sure you keep an eye with your primary care provider. Be sure that you touch face with whoever takes care of you to be sure that this is right for you.

Nicole 18:33

All right.

Kelli 18:34

All right, guys. We'll see you guys next time. Hope you have a good week. Take care. Bye.